Tyler S.

is this something the arize team is working on or mastra?

Did you export using the openinference library or directly from mastra to phoenix? Glad to hear that its not super far off

Has there been any further discussion on this topic? It appears mastra plans to deprecate the current tracing on November 4th

I am very happy to hear that they will be adding OTEL. I agree that feels like the right way to go

I've been taking a look at this a bit as my org prepares to upgrade mastra versions. I am happy to be involved via code contributions or discussions! Just let me know

Yeah I've seen some llm provider based ones for exceeding a token or invocation limit

Yeah something like that would be great. I think a few cases fall in here

of course this requires some color in the tracing but I have seen all of these cases in production. trying to clear it up so we can get a better sense of what is going on and be more selective for traces that get pulled for evals!

For sure. I'm happy to provide more context too for this "there is no output" initiative. While I agree with you about using metadata we have some nontechnical folks who are using phoenix for product discovery and hand labeling and it would be great to give them the context a little easier

Im getting pretty good at dealing with mastra these days 😅

Awesome. Yeah this is definitely multifaceted. I figured I'd ask since it feels like a solid concept to bake into the phoenix platform in general