Lightweight Query Library Alternatives to Arize-Phoenix

Peter K. · 2025-04-16T17:31:50.513Z

Is there a lighter weight library for querying than the full arize-phoenix package?

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RunLLM
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Yes, there are lighter weight libraries available. You can install specific sub-packages of Phoenix based on your needs, such as `arize-phoenix-otel`, `arize-phoenix-client`, or `arize-phoenix-evals`, instead of the full `arize-phoenix` package. This allows you to only include the components necessary for your use case, reducing the overall footprint. For more details, you can refer to the <https://github.com/Arize-ai/phoenix/issues/6860|GitHub issue> discussing the documentation of these lightweight packages. Would you like more detail on how to install and use these sub-packages? Sources: - <https://github.com/Arize-ai/phoenix/issues/6860|GitHub issue on lightweight packages>
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Dustin N.
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hi Peter K. we're working on the arize-phoenix-client package which should eventually reach feature-parity for everything you need phoenix for, save running the sever
Dustin N.
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it isn't there yet though
Peter K.
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Ah dang. Is there a way to avoid needing a .phoenix folder using the full library?
Peter K.
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Our app runs in lambdas so the package is causing some issues around that
Dustin N.
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yes! if you run phoenix pointed to a postres database we will skip the check for local storage
Dustin N.
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some legacy features will no longer work but you should get a warning should you try to use them
Peter K.
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Hrmm alright 🤔. Don't think that'll quite work for us. Assuming that means it is going to try and connect everytime right?
Peter K.
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We're trying to set up some cron lambdas to run evals
Dustin N.
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ah if you're just running evals, phoenix-evals is a lightweight standalone package that does not require the server
Peter K.
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Ok I'll take a look. We actually just pull the spans from phoenix and run our own eval framework. So just looking for a way to query the spans for now
Dustin N.
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the span querying functionality is currently in PR for the client
Dustin N.
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it should be released within the week actually
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Peter K.
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Awesome! Welp, I'll just wait for that then 🙂
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RunLLM
APP
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Yes, there are lighter weight libraries available. You can install specific sub-packages of Phoenix based on your needs, such as `arize-phoenix-otel`, `arize-phoenix-client`, or `arize-phoenix-evals`, instead of the full `arize-phoenix` package. This allows you to only include the components necessary for your use case, reducing the overall footprint. For more details, you can refer to the <https://github.com/Arize-ai/phoenix/issues/6860|GitHub issue> discussing the documentation of these lightweight packages. Would you like more detail on how to install and use these sub-packages? Sources: - <https://github.com/Arize-ai/phoenix/issues/6860|GitHub issue on lightweight packages>
💡 Hint: Mention RunLLM in the thread for followups.
Dustin N.
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hi Peter K. we're working on the arize-phoenix-client package which should eventually reach feature-parity for everything you need phoenix for, save running the sever
Dustin N.
·
it isn't there yet though
Peter K.
·
Ah dang. Is there a way to avoid needing a .phoenix folder using the full library?
Peter K.
·
Our app runs in lambdas so the package is causing some issues around that
Dustin N.
·
yes! if you run phoenix pointed to a postres database we will skip the check for local storage
Dustin N.
·
some legacy features will no longer work but you should get a warning should you try to use them
Peter K.
·
Hrmm alright 🤔. Don't think that'll quite work for us. Assuming that means it is going to try and connect everytime right?
Peter K.
·
We're trying to set up some cron lambdas to run evals
Dustin N.
·
ah if you're just running evals, phoenix-evals is a lightweight standalone package that does not require the server
Peter K.
·
Ok I'll take a look. We actually just pull the spans from phoenix and run our own eval framework. So just looking for a way to query the spans for now
Dustin N.
·
the span querying functionality is currently in PR for the client
Dustin N.
·
it should be released within the week actually
🙌1
Peter K.
·
Awesome! Welp, I'll just wait for that then 🙂
🫡1